#014 Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell
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#014 Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell
In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri welcome on Anita Li and Matthew Bell to talk about the state of the Experimental Analysis of Behavior. Links mentioned are below the contact form, and please reach out to us on Twitter or Instagram with your thoughts! Did you know you can call into the show here 24/7?
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-RYANO
#014 Is EAB Still Breathing? w/ Anita Li and Matthew Bell
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Links for Today
0:01:30 Hosts and Guests (Matt and Anita!) Introductions and Backgrounds in EAB!
0:02:25 Check out Matt's lab at SCU
0:03:10 Check out Michael Dougher's contributions and publications
0:03:57 Check out Al Poling's contributions and publications
0:04:00 Check out the journal Behavior Analysis: Research and Practice
0:04:30 Topic Change: What is EAB?
0:04:45 Question for listeners: Have you ever worked with animals?
0:07:00 For an example of Tony Nevin's publications on behavioral momentum check out The Analysis of Behavioral Momentum (1983)
0:07:00 For an example of Tony Nevin's publications on behavioral momentum check out The Momentum of Compliance (1996)
0:08:10 Topic Change: Where is EAB's current and future focus?
0:09:20 Check out the Journal of the Experimental Analysis of Behavior
0:10:20 Check out Peter Killeen's contributions and publications
0:11:47 Check out Timberlake and Allison's (1974) Response Deprivation: An Empirical Approach to Instrumental Performance
0:14:30 Topic Shift: How does EAB benefit practitioners?
0:20:45 Topic Shift: The methodology of EAB, ABA, and Contextualism
0:21:20 **Dimitri's friend and scorpion work**
0:25:55 Topic Change: The current status of funding in EAB
0:27:05 Check out Matthew Bell's (2018) Winter is Coming to the Experimental Analysis of Behavior
0:28:45 Check out B. F. Skinner's contributions and publications
0:28:45 Check out Skinner's (1959) Cumulative Record
0:30:35 Check out the Society for the Quantitative Analyses of Behavior (SQAB)
0:30:40 Check out the Association for Behavior Analysis International (ABAI)
0:30:55 Topic Shift: EAB, Neuroscience, and Interdisciplinary Research
0:31:30 Check out Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst by Robert Sapolsky
0:35:35 Check out Skinner's (1961) The Flight From the Laboratory
0:37:42 For more information on adjunctive behavior check out Killeen and Pellón's (2013) Adjunctive Behaviors are Operants
0:37:42 For more information on adjunctive behavior check out Foster's (1978) Adjunctive Behavior: An Under-Reported Phenomenon in Applied Behavior Analysis?
0:37:50 Check out Brian Iwata's contributions and publications
0:38:20 Check out the National Institute of Health (NIH)
0:38:20 Check out the National Science Foundation (NSF)
0:39:45 Check out Jarmolowicz's (2018) EAB is Fine, Thanks for Asking
0:40:00 Check out Adam Fox's (2018) The Future is Upon Us
0:41:30 Topic Change: What is the role of Universities and other Organizations?
0:44:10 Check out BACB Certificant Data and Growth
0:45:30 Check out Division 25 (Behavior Analysis) of APA
0:46:10 Topic Shift: Is the identity of a Behavior Analyst changing?
0:49:25 Question for listeners: What are the metrics/measures of a successful field? Tell us in the comments!
0:49:50 Check out Ogden Lindsley's contributions and publications
0:55:45 Call to listeners: Don't be afraid to submit a paper, poster, talk to a conference/journal!
0:56:33 Check out Jonathan Tarbox's contributions and publications
0:56:35 Check out the journal Behavior Analysis in Practice
0:57:15 Topic Change: Is it too effortful for the practitioner to conduct research?
1:09:24 Topic Change: How do we create better practitioners?
1:10:39 Check out Edward Morris' contributions and publications
1:10:55 Check out Schlinger and Poling's (1998) Introduction to Scientific Psychology
1:11:10 Check out Cooper, Heron, and Heward's (2019) Applied Behavior Analysis (i.e., The White Book)
1:11:48 Check out the Society for the Teaching of Psychology (STP)
1:11:55 Check out Division 15 (Educational Psychology) of APA
1:12:04 Check out Dunn and Chew's (2005) The Best Practices for Teaching Introductory Psychology
1:13:50 Topic Shift: Is Behavior Analysis a part of Psychology?
1:17:27 Check out Henry Roediger's contributions and publications
1:17:46 Check out Brown, Roediger, and McDaniel's (2014) Make It Stick: The Science of Successful Learning
1:24:55 Check out Killeen's (2001) The Four Causes of Behavior
0:01:30 For additional reading on EAB and the discussions in this episode check out Sanabria's (2019) Primer on Learning and Conditioning: A Quantitative Approach
0:01:30 For additional reading on EAB and the discussions in this episode check out Fantino's (1979) The Experimental Analysis of Behavior: A Biological Perspective
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Dimitiri Makridis
I’m a behavior analyst living in Columbus, Ohio. I'm a practitioner-scientist, at least I really try to be. I started out in direct care, as many of you, and have grinded every inch of the way. I have an M.A. from The Chicago School, and I’m working on my Ph.D. right now. I’m pretty simple when it comes to what I think about the field. Basically, we have the power to change anything we want about anyone at any time given the necessary variables and resources. That includes saving the world. Not too out there, right? If you’re reading this, we’re probably on a similar wavelength, or at the least, you get what I’m saying. I’m diving in this experiment to see if I can bring anything to the table and learn as much as I can. My interests are all over the place from anything behavior analysis, philosophy, politics, technology, media, to podcasting, all things guitar, disc golf and reading comic books. In my free time, I read and consume content and information. I’m a novel information stimulation junky! Don’t hesitate to reach out and get some dialogue going I believe and want to work on the mission of building this community! Hit me up on Instagram @explanantoryficiton. As a huge comic nerd, I have a love of origin stories so don’t hesitate to let me know how you got here!
Ryan O’Donnell
Hey, I'm Ryan. I usually go by Ryan O or RYANO. I hail from northern Nevada in the grungy, yet surprisingly classy, (and newly renovated) Reno, Nevada . I like my climate like I like my data: evolving, uncompromising, and progressive. I am a master of science; that is, I have an M.S. in Applied Behavior Analysis, however my interests have grown to include many other interests, including entrepreneurship and capturing perspectives and stories through various mediums. These interests and skills have allowed me to work with a lot of great people. I've started three businesses, started numerous active joint venture agreements, a behavioral think-tank, a podcast, a professional development movement, helped organizations that support people with Intellectual Disabilities, to list a few. Currently I'm on a "gap" year where I make content for behavioral science enthusiasts and prepare for my next big venture (TBA in 2019). I focus outside this role on building a community of thought leaders and doers to create content that increases the transparency of behavior analytic technologies with the hopes of creating a platform that truly saves the world. My interests are all over, from artificial intelligence and machine learning applications to the theory and philosophy behind Why We Do What We Do (wwdwwdpodcast.com). In my spare time you can find me consuming social media, prepping/climbing a giant mountain, or walking around with my camera in my hand (and, occasionally, all simultaneously). Connect with me personally on most all social platforms via @TheDailyBA and let me know what drives you to pursue the Behavior Analysis vision.