#013 Science is Supposed to be Progressive (Dogma in ABA)
What to Expect
In this episode, RYANO and Dimitri welcome on Jim Moore and Merrill Winston to talk about the rigidity that can occur within science and how they try to sort out the evidence. Links mentioned are below the contact form, and please reach out to us on Twitter or Instagram with your thoughts! Did you know you can call into the show here 24/7?
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-RYANO
#012 Behavior Analysis: A Field Behind the Times?
Contact Us
Links for Today
0:01:44 Introduce Merrill Winston - Check out TCE's previous episode with Merrill
0:01:47 Introduce Jim Moore - Check out The Daily BA's video The Field Didn't Change... The Profession Didn't Change... I Changed w/ Jim Moore
0:01:50 Topic: Pliance, Tracking, Rule-Governed Behavior and how this relates to Authority and Power
0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Hayes & Wilson (1993) Some applied implications of a contemporary behavior-analytic account of verbal events
0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Rule-governed behavior: Cognition, contingencies, and instructional control by Steven Hayes
0:02:05 For additional reading on Pliance and Tracking check out Kissi et al. (2017) A systematic review of pliance, tracking, and augmenting
0:03:15 Check out Jordan Belisle's research contributions and publications
0:08:30 Topic Change: How Pliance has affected the divide between academia and practitioners
0:09:40 Check out David Barlow's research contributions and publications
0:12:35 Check out the BACB's stats on the number of practitioners obtaining certification since 1999
0:17:55 Topic Change: Merrill and Jim talk about sources of bias based on individual preferences and rules
0:19:55 Check out Starting Strength's website for further information on Mark Rippetoe
0:26:25 Check out Finding the philosophical core: A review of Stephen C. Pepper's World Hypotheses: A Study in Evidence by Steve Hayes, Linda Hayes, and Hayne Reese (1988)
0:28:00 Check out Brian Iwata's research contributions and publications
0:28:05 Check out Mark Durand's research contributions and publications
0:34:30 Check out The Daily BA's video I Didn't Know Her Circumstances with Pat Friman
0:37:10 Check out the Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr.: The Case Against Freedom with B. F. Skinner
0:38:25 Check out Skinner's Verbal Behavior (1957)
0:40:08 Check out Skinner's About Behaviorism (1976)
0:41:35 Check out a list of Skinner's contributions and publications
0:41:40 Check out Steven Hayes' contributions and publications
0:43:38 Check out Timothy Vollmer's contributions and publications
0:44:35 Check out Reinforcement magnitude and the inhibiting effect of reinforcement by Jack Michael (1979)
0:44:50 Check out William Baum's contributions and publications
0:51:08 For additional reading on Green's Adjusting-Amount and Adjusting-Delay Procedures check out Do adjusting-amount and adjusting-delay procedures produce equivalent estimates of subjective value in pigeons? by Green et al. (2007)
1:05:10 Check out Rob Wolff's website for further information
1:06:13 For additional information on the future of behavioral science and evolutionary science check out the video Evolution and Contextual Behavioral Science Dialogue Between the Editors
1:06:40 For an example of Skinner's early work reflecting on biogenetics check out The phylogeny and ontogeny of behavior
1:08:10 Topic Change: The importance of collaborating within behavior analysis and with other sciences in order to move forward
1:10:05 Check out Mark Dixon's contributions and publications
1:10:20 Check out The Daily BA's video Threats to Behavior Analysis w/ Hank Schlinger
1:13:25 Check out Skinner's Beyond Freedom and Dignity
1:18:15 For more information on PEAK check out their website: https://www.peak2aba.com/
1:22:05 Check out the winners of the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1949
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Who We Are
Dimitiri Makridis
I’m a behavior analyst living in Columbus, Ohio. I'm a practitioner-scientist, at least I really try to be. I started out in direct care, as many of you, and have grinded every inch of the way. I have an M.A. from The Chicago School, and I’m working on my Ph.D. right now. I’m pretty simple when it comes to what I think about the field. Basically, we have the power to change anything we want about anyone at any time given the necessary variables and resources. That includes saving the world. Not too out there, right? If you’re reading this, we’re probably on a similar wavelength, or at the least, you get what I’m saying. I’m diving in this experiment to see if I can bring anything to the table and learn as much as I can. My interests are all over the place from anything behavior analysis, philosophy, politics, technology, media, to podcasting, all things guitar, disc golf and reading comic books. In my free time, I read and consume content and information. I’m a novel information stimulation junky! Don’t hesitate to reach out and get some dialogue going I believe and want to work on the mission of building this community! Hit me up on Instagram @explanantoryficiton. As a huge comic nerd, I have a love of origin stories so don’t hesitate to let me know how you got here!
Ryan O’Donnell
Hey, I'm Ryan. I usually go by Ryan O or RYANO. I hail from northern Nevada in the grungy, yet surprisingly classy, (and newly renovated) Reno, Nevada . I like my climate like I like my data: evolving, uncompromising, and progressive. I am a master of science; that is, I have an M.S. in Applied Behavior Analysis, however my interests have grown to include many other interests, including entrepreneurship and capturing perspectives and stories through various mediums. These interests and skills have allowed me to work with a lot of great people. I've started three businesses, started numerous active joint venture agreements, a behavioral think-tank, a podcast, a professional development movement, helped organizations that support people with Intellectual Disabilities, to list a few. Currently I'm on a "gap" year where I make content for behavioral science enthusiasts and prepare for my next big venture (TBA in 2019). I focus outside this role on building a community of thought leaders and doers to create content that increases the transparency of behavior analytic technologies with the hopes of creating a platform that truly saves the world. My interests are all over, from artificial intelligence and machine learning applications to the theory and philosophy behind Why We Do What We Do (wwdwwdpodcast.com). In my spare time you can find me consuming social media, prepping/climbing a giant mountain, or walking around with my camera in my hand (and, occasionally, all simultaneously). Connect with me personally on most all social platforms via @TheDailyBA and let me know what drives you to pursue the Behavior Analysis vision.